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Info-Atari16 Digest         Mon,  3 Feb 92       Volume 92 : Issue  64

Today's Topics:
                       ".img" file conversions
                  Atari 4 Meg 1040ST system forsale.
                  Bash 1.10 binary for Mint problem
                        Illinois U.G. changes
                     Info on Spectre GCR (2 msgs)
                Is there software in Germany that ...
                                 MIDI
                         Modula-2... thanks!
                         new version of Omega
                    SM124 Monitor Problem (2 msgs)
                       ST's memory architecture
                         System 7 and Spectre
                         Tape cassette maker?
                            Uniterm manual
                VI editor for Atari ST needed (2 msgs)

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Date: 3 Feb 92 15:52:25 GMT
From: sae!sae.com![e-mail] (Bob Malay)
Subject: ".img" file conversions
To: [e-mail]

There are a number of clipart files on a.a that are in ".img" format. How
do I convert them so that they can be used by EasyDraw (requires ".gem"
format??

Bob Malay

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Date: 3 Feb 92 14:19:21 GMT
From: noao!asuvax!ukma!psuvax1!psuvm![e-mail] (J.J. Lehett)
Subject: Atari 4 Meg 1040ST system forsale.
To: [e-mail]

  1040ST System Forsale:

      Atari 1040 ST
         Tos 1.4 ROMS
         4 meg Zubair 3D RAM upgrade
         Internal 720K drive, an external 360k drive, mouse, etc.
      Supra 20 Meg hard drive
      Atari SC1224 Color monitor

  Make offer on whole system, or parts.  Will only part out if all parts
go.  Reason for sale... hopeful upgrade to the Mega STe line.
------------------
J.J. Lehett     : Atari's, puzzles, games, chaos, fractals, math....

  - [e-mail]                 Penn State CAC Lab Operator
  - [e-mail]          Atari 16/32 bit SIG Sysop
  - j.lehett2                            Genie address

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Date: 3 Feb 92 11:08:48 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!edcastle!warwick!nott-cs![e-mail] (`Grave' Dave Gymer)
Subject: Bash 1.10 binary for Mint problem
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Peter
 Mutsaers) writes:
>I got my bash 1.10 binary from atari.archive, the Mint version. When I
>set too many environment variables, the shell crashes.
>
>I cannot set/read the _stksize by the way because there is no symbol
>table.
>
>Do others have the same problems?

I'm aware of this problem; I have got a new version which has a visible
_stksize, but it doesn't cure the env var problem; bash no longer crashes,
but it seems to have difficulty in exporting all of a loong variable list;
I notice this most when UNIXMODE gets trashed and the gcc ends up not
knowing what the ****'s going on (my gcc lives on a Minix partition).

I could post an updated binary, but you might be just as well to wait for 1.12,
which I'll port as soon as I get my SST (there's no way I can compile bash
with 2 meg memory :-( ). I'll look into the env var problem at the same time.

Sorry about the **** up; I won't do it again, promise. :-)
--
`Grave' Dave Gymer | Well, this is the last four-line .signature I'll be
42 St Mary's Park, | doing for a while, you'll be releived to hear. So
Louth, Lincs,      | what will I do now? Post stuff with the other 19,
LN11 0EF, ENGLAND  | of course...

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Date: 3 Feb 92 07:23:19 GMT
From: CompuServe.COM![e-mail] (Lawrence Estep)
Subject: Illinois U.G. changes
To: [e-mail]

There were a couple of changes that I forgot to make before sending the latest
User Group listing (state listings A-K) out.  The changes involved Illinois
User Groups, and instead of sending the whole list out again at this time,
I am just listing the corrected Illinois section below.  Please append this
corrected section to the entire list if you plan to distribute the list
elsewhere.

Thank you,
Lawrence Estep
Editor




 ILLINOIS  (Sorted by ZIP code)

 SCAT
 CO ALVIN RIESBECK
 PO BOX 7226
 ROSELLE IL 60172

 [phone]
 BBS [phone]


 LCACE
 PO BOX 8788
 WAUKEGAN IL 60079-8788

 [phone]
 Pegasus BBS [phone]
 Python BBS [phone]

 Dues: $20/yr per family
 Meetings: 2nd Saturday, 11 A.M.
           Warren-Newport Public Library, 244 O'Plains Road, Gurnee,IL

 Newsletter : LCACE News Journal


 GAUG*
 CO MICHAEL BURKLEY
 PO BOX 55
 VIOLA IL 61486

 [phone]


 ST INFORMATION GROUP*
 CO JOE LAMBERT
 1116 WOODLAWN CT
 PEKIN IL 61554


 CIAUG*
 CO ROBERT HANDLEY
 1920 E CROXTON AVE
 BLOOMINGTON IL 61701-5702

 [phone]


 CUSTUG
 PO BOX 3442
 CHAMPAIGN IL 61826

 [phone]

 Meetings 2nd Wednesday at Urbana Free Library, Race and Elm Streets, 7:00 P.M.
 Dues: $16/yr.
 President: Lee Johnson
 GEnie: L.JOHNSON13


 EAUG*
 CO HANK VIZE
 2425 CRISLISA DR
 ALTON IL 62002

 [phone]
 BBS [phone]


-Lawrence Estep
 [e-mail]

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Date: 3 Feb 92 16:19:07 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!noose.ecn.purdu
 e.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!PURCCVM.BITNET![e-mail]
Subject: Info on Spectre GCR
To: [e-mail]

Can anyone give me a rundown on the capabilities of the Spectre GCR?
Does it emulate a color mac?
What is the speed like?
can the atari drive read and write normal Mac disks?
does it use ST memory? if so how much is free for programs?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanx in advance.

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Date: 3 Feb 92 18:17:01 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!zazen!doug.cae.wisc.edu!carter@arizona.e
 du (Carter Gregory)
Subject: Info on Spectre GCR
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>Can anyone give me a rundown on the capabilities of the Spectre GCR?
>Does it emulate a color mac?

Not YET...

>What is the speed like?

Well, on a 16Mhz machine its OK.  I would never go back to 8Mhz.
MultiFinder performance is aided greatly with 16Mhz cpu ability...

>can the atari drive read and write normal Mac disks?

Yes that Atari drive can read and write Mac Disks...
(AMAZING isn't it?!)

>does it use ST memory? if so how much is free for programs?

ST Memory? :)  Is there any other kind?  Perhaps on a TT, maybe.

But, it really depends on what system you want to use, and how you
install it...with System 6.0.7 I get about 3 Megs Free.

It also depends on whether or not your under MultiFinder, FInder and various
inits cdevs you run...

You USE to get enough memory for doing just about anything you need to do,
using the top of the line programs for the Mac...

NOT ANY MORE.  So if you are planning on getting a GCR, wait till the SST
board is avilable, OR buy a TT and a GCR...

DON'T buy a ST, or even a memory upgrade on it.  4 Megs is really gonna
suck when we get System 7.0 running.

>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Thanx in advance.

Well your very welcome...

-Greg

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Date: 3 Feb 92 17:59:31 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!zazen!doug.cae.wisc.edu![e-mail]
 (Carter Gregory)
Subject: Is there software in Germany that ...
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (William
 Rosenkranz) writes:
>
>gee, when i wrote my master's thesis, the hot setup was a Selectrix, Fortran
>(batch, natch), a Calcomp plotter, Rapidograph pens, and White-Out :-)
>
>-bill
>[e-mail]
>--
>Bill Rosenkranz            |UUCP: {uunet,texsun}!convex!rosenkra
>Convex Computer Corp.      |ARPA: [e-mail]

Absolutely:

Positively:

Disgusting.

Right when I was eating my lunch too...

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Date: 3 Feb 92 16:20:20 GMT
From: mcsun!sun4nl!donau!dutecai.et.tudelft.nl![e-mail] (;Leon Kemna)
Subject: MIDI
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Jim Trageser) writes:

>I'm writing yet another Atari story for San Diego's ComputorEdge magazine, and
>am trying to get a feel for what the most popular software/hardware
>(keyboards, et al) set-ups are with Ataris. Also, any comments on why you use
>an Atari for your MIDI rather than a PC or Mac. (I'm not a MIDI user; more DTP
>and WP than anything else, so bear with me. . . .) As in the past, I will

To those of us who do use MIDI, this shall spark a vivid reaction.
Why Atari and MIDI you ask?
----------------------------
ONE :  The Atari computer comes complete with a MIDI interface. This is perhaps
the most important reason that software developers chose this computer to
develop software for. I can think of no other computer that one cannot buy
without a midi interface.
TWO :  as a result of the above.. The BEST midi software runs on the Atari ST.
(In most cases on the Atari ST alone). Steinberg (German) is the forerunner
on midi software. There top product is called "CUBASE". This is by far the
best known midi program used by professionals. If you pay close attention
to music broadcasts on TV, you should see that, when there is a computer in
the background, chances are 90% it will be an Atari, and for the program,
chances are let's say 75% it's Cubase. Cubase is shortly to be released for
the MAC and PC.
        Runner up on the software front is Notator, I believe. This is by a
company called C-lab. I believe the programmers of Notator (and other C-lab
products) first worked for Steinberg, but later split from them.
THREE : The various Atari benefits like; GOOD SCREEN and LOW PRICE.

What keyboards?
----------------
I'm not really into keyboards, but I can tell you something about synthesizers.
First, there are more synthesizer/keyboard manufacturers than computer
manufacturers, so you can guess the variety of modern electronic instruments
is enormous. If asked, I would name the largest three manufacturers of
synthesizers as, Roland, Yamaha and Korg. All three offer synths ranging
from cheap ($500 is kid's stuff) through intermediate ($1000 to $2000 for
the serious amateur or professional) to expensive ($4000 too expensive
for home use really). Popular cheap would be Yamaha TQ-5 (or BY 100, I
think). Popular intermediate are Yamaha SY-22 (My synth), Korg M1,
Korg 01-W (New) or Roland D-10. Expensive synths are Yamaha SY-77 or
Roland D-70 (Both top of the range).

Important
---------
It is important to check if you're keyboard/synth is MULTITIMBRAL. This
means it can play more than one instrument at one time. All the above
synths are multitimbral (intermediate usually 8 times, expensive synths
up to 16 times).

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P.A. Donker     Faculty of Architecture       University of Technology Delft
                                              The Netherlands
EMail [e-mail]              Europe
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Date: 3 Feb 92 15:31:22 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.c
 a!daily-planet.concordia.ca![e-mail] (Agostino Deligia)
Subject: Modula-2... thanks!
To: [e-mail]

Well, thank-you to all who answered my query about a pd/shareware Modula-2
system.  Apparently, the ANA Modula-2 system (shareware) is of average quality
and not complete with respect to GEM libraries.  The other system at
atari.archive (pd, Germna docs) is supposed to be better and seems complete in
terms of GEM, although it has some minor bugs.

Agostino Deligia
[e-mail]
It was the best of .sigs, it was the worst of .sigs...
--
Agostino Deligia
[e-mail]
It was the best of .sigs, it was the worst of .sigs...

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Date: 3 Feb 92 08:48:51 GMT
From: DUTIKOS.TUDELFT.NL![e-mail] (Hildo Biersma)
Subject: new version of Omega
To: [e-mail]

Hi all,
a new version (2.01) of the game Omega has just been released.
This dungeon-exploration game works on ST's with medium or high
resolution and >= 1 Mb memory.
Main differences from the previous version (2.00): faster, smaller,
a few bugs have been removed.
The game is available from atari.archive.umich.edu
Enjoy! Hildo Biersma

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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 92 14:40:47 GMT
From: "D. Hines" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SM124 Monitor Problem
To: Info-Atari16 <@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk:[e-mail]>

Chris,
    You write:

> I am having a problem with a SM124 (Goldstar) monitor. When the screen is
> mostly black, the white portions of the screen are very dim, and as more
> white is displayed the white return to normal brightness.

I also had this problem a couple of years ago, and was given a solution by
Ian D Hawkins <[e-mail]> which worked
well for me... the message he sent to me was:

: The fading of the SM124 monitor is caused by the picture tube
: cathode power supply drifting out of spec.  It is simple and
: cheap to cure if you have a soldering iron.  The cathode power
: supply should stay at +70V with respect to ground.  It drifts up
: to over 80V in low load conditions.  To correct this connect a
: seventy volt zener across it (or two 36 volt zeners in series).
: A one watt diode should run cool.  The easiest point to connect
: the diode in is across the small PCB on the back of the picture
: tube between the points where leads are attached marked 'B2' ( +
: cathode) and "V3" (ground).  You may want to verify these
: voltages before you do the mod.


Good luck,     Dave Hines.

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Date: 3 Feb 92 11:09:02 GMT
From: mcsun!sun4nl!alchemy![e-mail] (Ate Brink)
Subject: SM124 Monitor Problem
To: [e-mail]

Chris Burgess writes:

>I am having a problem with a SM124 (Goldstar) monitor. When the screen is
>mostly black, the white portions of the screen are very dim, and as more
>white is displayed the white return to normal brightness.
>
>Has anybody seen this problem before? Is there somthing I need to tweak
>on the monitor?
>
The answer to this question has been posted in this newsgroup on 15 mar 91.

Ian D. Hawkins writes:
"It's easy to fix the fading problem. It's caused by the drifting of the
cathode supply voltage. This is fed to the card on the end of the picture tube
to a connection marked B2. It should stay at 70 volts, but drifts high when
the screen is nearly black. The grid thus appears more negative and so the
current drops off. Fix it by regulating the 70 volt line with, for example, a
couple of 36v zeners in series. They don't draw much current, only a few mA.
V2 and V3 are ground connection on the tube-end pcb."

And [e-mail] writes:
"I have seen this problem on many monochrome monitors over the last couple of
years. Thank you for the solution to an old, nagging problem. I have installed
the suggested zener diodes on one of my monitors, and the problem has vanished
as advertised. Inspired by this success, I tried a similar, simpler solution.
I have installed a simple 33 kilohm resistor between B2 and ground. It draws
just 2 milliamps, which is enough to keep the voltage between 68 and 72 volts.
The screen is just as stable as with the zeners, and 33K resistors are a lot
easier to find then 72 V zeners. Any value from 33K to 100K seems to do the
job."


I have used the solution with the 33K resistor several times now (we have a
lot of Atari ST computers at our department) and it works.

Ate Brink
Moderator of the Atari archive at the Utrecht University (archive.cs.ruu.nl)
--
Ate Brink, Dept. of Computer Science, Utrecht University
P.O. Box 80.089,  3508 TB  Utrecht,  The Netherlands
Telephone: [phone]    Email: [e-mail]

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Date: 3 Feb 92 17:50:04 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!zazen!doug.cae.wisc.edu![e-mail]
 (Carter Gregory)
Subject: ST's memory architecture
To: [e-mail]

In article <MdWQ=[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mark Choi)
 writes:
>Firstly, greg makes the assumption that when a new version of a piece of
>software comes out, the old version suddenly vaporized. Wrong. People
>cazn get by just fine with Word 4.0 on the Spectre. I bet that 90% of
>all Word users, Mac Atari, PC, and Amiga do not use even close to 30% of
>it's current features, let alone 5.0. Also, It is quite easy to run all
>those programs under sys 7 with 4 megs. I know, I've done it. You have
>to change the maximum alotted memory size for each program, which slows
>them down a bit, but not much, but they still all work OK. Besides Sys 7
>has virtual memory, So just get a bigger hard disk. No real caps there.
>SuperPaint is a memory hog anyway. It works fine when you force it to
>run under less memory. It is just greedy.

As for the size and feature usage of MS Word 5.0.  I currently DO use more than
30% of Word very easily.  I love the grammar checker.

Resizing the programs makes them unusable.  They run FAR too slow for my
productivity needs.  Not only that, but when you start cramming programs,
you start running into memory fragmentation problems which severely
limits the document size you can work on, especially in PageMaker 4.0.

In fact, for some of my drawing pics, I actually need to increase the partition
size, especially if you want to cut/paste between programs..which is the whole
point of working under MultiFinder anyway, to quickly share information.

And if I decrease my partitions there is far too much disk swapping of code
resources...

I guess I am talking about praticality here.  If you have the time to sit back
and wait for the disk too pull off a drop down menu from the disk, fine.  But,
I would think most people don't have the time for that kind of stuff.
>
>On 31-Jan-92 in ST's memory architecture
>user Carter [e-mail]. writes:
>>ever.  I have heard though, that you can't expect ANYTHING from Mr. Small
>>for another 3-4 months, AT LEAST on this topic...ie (SST AND 3.1).
>>By that time, who knows how big other programs will be..PYRO?? Excel??  Wingz?


>
>And I thought D Small had just posted here two days ago saying they
>would be out the door in days. Was I tripping or something?
>
>
>
>mark

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Date: 3 Feb 92 13:40:59 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!heifetz!math.fu-berlin.de!i
 raun2!ira.uka.de!smurf.sub.org!easix.GUN.de!channelz.GUN.de!dino.DinoCo.de!colo
 [e-mail] (Stephan Muhs)
Subject: System 7 and Spectre
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
 (Carter Gregory) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Stephan
 Muhs) writes:
>>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
 (Gerald Greenberg) writes:
>>>It's been a while, so I thought I'd ask again:  any news on
>>>progress toward making Spectre System 7 compatible? e.g., is
>>>it in beta-version yet?
>>>Just wondering.
>>>--Gerry
>>>[e-mail]
>>
>>Here the latest information I got from Gadgets (dated December 31): Spectre
>>3.1 *should* be ready at the end of January - and it will support System 7.
>>However, since then I wasn`t able to reach anybody at Gadgets`. I understand
>>that the lady who ran the paperworks quit in December and moved to Jamaica.
>>
>>Since then, Gadgets has been, hmm - let`s say less than responsive.
>>
>>Anyway, all release dates by Gadgets should be taken with a grain of salt,
>>considering that the original release date for Spectre 3.1 was in Summer
>>1991...
>>
>>Stephan
>>
>
>I'm..back!  Lets see now...more personalized comments..from yours truly:
>
>You must be joking?!  End of January!?  Spectre 3.1?  Please don't smoke
>that stuff while online guy, you could injure yourself...
>
Sh***, what I wrote a week ago, *WAS* at that time the most recent information
I had from Gadgets by Small. Only today I learned that Sepctre GCR 3.1,
sheduled for release in *Summer 1991* is actually nothing but vaporware.

Honestly, as a major distributor for the GCR I am pretty upset that I had
to read that news on the net.

>If you read David Small's message he left on the net Spectre development
>is at a STAND STILL, and has been for quite sometime, almost a year I think.
>
In August, Atari Fair Duesseldorf, thus spake Dave Small: "Probably a month
or so..." (until 3.1 is ready).

>Dave has been too busy programming his utilities for his SST board, and
>trying to get the thing out...
>
I know that, and believe me - I do appreciate his work and his products.

>They now are working on a MEGA STE version, which is going to delay things
>even more.
>
News to me - but then again, maybe they really are working on it. Who knows
for sure?

>-Greg

BTW: Why do certain people have no other method of verbal expression
     than flames?


--
stephan muhs      [e-mail]
wilhelmstr. 51    ...!unido!easix!channelz!dino!colonius
5000 koeln 60     Genie: s.muhs
germany           voice: [phone]

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Date: 3 Feb 92 10:15:15 GMT
From: timbuk.cray.com!hemlock.cray.com![e-mail] (Marc Bouron)
Subject: Tape cassette maker?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Michael John Dinsmore)
 writes:
> Greetings.
> I know that there are programs to make disk labels
> using the ST, but are there any for making cassettes?
> I am not sure where in atari.archive.umich.edu to look.
> Thanks!

In the /programming section, there is a file called cled122.lzh (or something
like that).  It's a cassette label editor (`cled').  Intended as an example of
programming with GEM, it also looks like a useful application in its own right.
Give it a try.

Cheers,

[M][a][r][c]                                 ===== Cray Research (UK) Ltd. =====
                                             INTERNET: [e-mail]
    "If all the girls in Essex were laid     JANET:    [e-mail]
     end-to-end, no-one would be in the      UUCP:     ...!uknet!crayuk!M.Bouron
     slightest bit surprised..."             VOICE:    [phone] x2208

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Date: 3 Feb 92 15:30:27 GMT
From: ncrcom!ncrlnk!ncrwat!pinot![e-mail] (Chris Herborth)
Subject: Uniterm manual
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (MarkLehmann) writes:

}Since the Uniterm manual is in LaTeX, it should first be run through the
}LaTeX macros for TeX to convert it to a dvi format.  After this, the
}dvi file should be converted to postscript with the "dvips" program available
}on the atari archive.  Then simply print the post script file.

It would be _really_ nice if someone would do this, and upload the results
to atari.archive...

--
----------======================= _   /\ ===========================----------
Chris Herborth                    \`o.0'       [e-mail]
Information Products Co-Op        =(___)=
NCR E&M Waterloo                     U     Your cash: "Bob"'s favourite snack.

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Date: 3 Feb 92 13:53:56 GMT
From: network.ucsd.edu!mvb.saic.com![e-mail] (Stephen Harold
 Goldstein)
Subject: VI editor for Atari ST needed
To: [e-mail]

Try the STeVIe editor at atari.archive.umich.edu.

I think it's in the directory /atari/editors along with several others.
--
---
Stephen Goldstein     [e-mail]
My first Atari system? A 24K Atari 800, Rev. A ROMS, C(not G)TIA graphics
Disclaimer:  That's not what I said.

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Date: 3 Feb 92 16:10:20 GMT
From:
 math.fu-berlin.de!NewsServ!reseq!regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de![e-mail].n
 et (Peter Loibl)
Subject: VI editor for Atari ST needed
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Fa.BULL) writes:


>Hi,

> I am looking for the UNIX-Editor 'vi' running on the Atari ST!
> Could anyone please mail me, where I can ftp it? -- OR --
> Could someone please mail me an uuencoded version?

> Thanks in advance

> Andy

Sure I can:

Try: ftp 129.69.1.12
This is the anonymous ftp-server (UNIX) at the University of
Stuttgart, FRG. Use anonymous as idendity and your name as password,
change to soft/atari (cd soft/atari). There is a lot of software -
most of it is of no serious use. vi should be under editors. There
are also a lot of TeX-macros, if you are interested in.
But be carefull: I have the feeling, that some stuff is infected by
viruses!!!

Peter

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